Stars of Vaudeville #176: Stan Laurel


Stan Laurel is many ways the anti-Chaplin. There is much speculation as to why, given their common background in the Fred Karno troup, there wasn’t more contact between the two former colleagues during their Hollywood years.  There was almost none. During a period of some forty years in the States after the Karno troop had disbanded, Chaplin and Laurel are known to have been together exactly twice.

Author Fred Laurence Guiles speculates that Chaplin was insecure; that his fragile ego couldn’t stand the competition. However, this author’s humble theory is rather the opposite. Laurel was in no sense Chaplin’s equal. He’d been his understudy with the  Karno troupe. When the tour disintegrated, he made his living for awhile as a Chaplin imitator (one of countless, but adding a legitimate grievance to the disdain Chaplin may have felt.)

Intellectually, Laurel was a lightweight. While Chaplin “found himself” almost instantly at Keystone, floundering only for a few weeks, it took Laurel 11 or 12 years to discover his character — and then only with a partner as a catalyst. While recent effort has been made to elevate Laurel to the status of the great comic directors, in reality he was never any more than a comic journeyman. To his dying day, he had nothing but defensive scorn for those who tried to “say something”, insisting that he just wanted to make people laugh. Of course he did — some of their shorts he did with Oliver Hardy are the funniest movies ever made. But there is nothing in the team’s canon to equal the best of Chaplin, KeatonLloydLangdon, the Marx Bros, or Fields as films.

Chaplin’s scorn may also have had to do with another form of snobbery. Coming from the gutter himself, and now one of the richest men in the world, he associated with the likes of William Randolph HearstGeorge Bernard Shaw, Igor Stravinsky, etc. etc. Laurel, as successful as he was, lacked both intellectual pretension and money smarts. At a time when the other great comics’ earnings were in the millions, his were in the thousands — and the bulk of that going to ex-wives. To be so much richer than Laurel might have been embarrassing to Chaplin. Laurel was not in his “class.”

In contrast with nearly every other major comic figure to come out of vaudeville (Chaplin, Fields, Allen, Marx, Williams), Laurel exhibited next to no intellectual pretensions, inclinations or abilities. He lived breathed, ate, and slept gags. Hearing him speak in interviews is a bit shocking. The fact of the matter is, he was like many ballet dancers, opera singers and classical actors – a practitioner of a complex “high” art who shocks you by being an otherwise ignorant and superficial person. In reality, a philosophical nature and book smarts can be a hindrance to a performing artist. While Fred Allen and Groucho Marx were without peer in the delivery of lines, neither could act his way out of a paper bag. Chaplin’s intellectuality eventually alienated him completely from his audience. Stan never tried to do more than connect with an audience and audiences were grateful.


Born in Lancashire in 1890 (the year after Chaplin), Stan was the son of Arthur Jefferson, (a.k.a “Jeff” or A.J.”) a successful actor/manager and playwright. A.J. claimed to be from the same family that had produced Joseph Jefferson (America’s perennial stage Rip Van Winkle in the 19th century) and possibly even a certain American Jefferson who co-wrote the Declaration of Independence.

His parents were struggling during Stan’s early years, but success came to Jeff in 1896, touring the provinces with the melodramas that were so popular in that era. When Stan was 12, the family moved to Glasgow where his father managed the Metropole Theatre.

Stan Laurel

Stanley had always wanted to follow in his footsteps. A.J. built him his own miniature theatre in the attic when he was nine. When Stan was at boarding school, one of his teachers would wake him up after all the kids were asleep and have him entertain the faculty. Stanley Jefferson was a terrible student but that was overlooked on account of his talent. One day, when he was in his teens, he snuck off to a music hall run by a friend of A.J.’s and quietly, anxiously made his theatrical debut. A.J. approved. He got Stan a job with Levy and Cardwell’s Juvenile Pantomimes, with whom the boy performed for two years.

In 1910, Stan was discovered by Karno. By this time, Chaplin was already the company’s principle comedian. Laurel was made second comedian and Chaplin’s understudy. The two were room mates during the company’s first U.S. tour in 1910. Were they friends? Did they talk? What did they talk about? The world will never know.

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Upon the troupe’s return to England, Stan left to tour music hall with his own sketches. He was  on the brink of starvation when Karno manager Alf Reeves offered him a slot in the 1912 U.S tour. The troop was an even bigger hit this time around, word of mouth and memory serving to have amplify audience expectations.  When Chaplin left the company to make films, Karno lost all of the upcoming bookings. The act disbanded in 1913.


Some went back home to England, but Stanley Jefferson elected to stay in the land of opportunity. He teamed up with two other Karno alum, Edgar and Wren Hurley as “the Three Comiques”. Stanley wrote a sketch for them called  “the Nutty Burglars” that played Chicago and environs for several months. On the advice of booking agent Gordon Bostock, the troupe then began to call themselves the Keystone Trio. Stan started to do his character as Charlie Chaplin, and the Hurleys began to do their parts as silent comedians Chester Conklin and Mabel Normand. I guess this was in the days before lawsuits. Anyway, the deception made the act highly bookable, and the team worked the Poli Circuit for many months, finally breaking up over “creative differences”. (“I want to throw the pie!”, “No! want to throw the pie!”)

In 1915, he teamed with Alice and Baldwin “Baldie” Cooke to form the “the Stan Jefferson trio”. This knockabout team followed very much the same formula as the Keystones (without the silent film star rip-off) with a sketch called “the Crazy Cracksman” they worked the ProctorFox, and Pantages circuits for two years.


In 1917, Stan met (and fell for) a woman named Mae Dahlberg, an Australian woman who was part of a dancing sister act. Stan dumped the Cookes and teamed up with Mae, making her both his comedy partner and common-law wife. (the fact that she had an actual husband down under stopped her from becoming the legal Mrs. Jefferson). It was Mae who gave Stan the surname the public came to know him by. With the high degree of superstition so common to stage folk, Stanley realized one day that “Jefferson” has 13 letters. Of course, that numerological handicap never hindered Joseph or Thomas J., but we’ll let that pass. As the two were casting about for names one day, Mae cracked open a history book and saw a picture of Scipio Africanus wearing the traditional laurel wreath of a victorious roman general. And, so, that’s why we call him Stan Africanus. No, no, just kidding.

Stan and Mae struggled together in vaudeville and films for ten years. George Burns spoke highly of their two-act in later years. He recalled that Stan played Mae’s mother, cried a lot, and got pushed around a lot by Mae, who was a sort of matronly Margaret Dumont type.

Unfortunately their relationship was very like that in real life, too. Stan and Mae fought backstage constantly. Not only was Stan hen-pecked (shades of the characters he was to play) but there is evidence that he was abused.  He would emerge from many an overheard, overheated dressing room conversation with black and blue marks and scratches. “Do you know that cat I have-?” he began to explain to one friend. “You mean Mae?” was the too obvious rejoinder.

In 1917, the team was booked at the Hippodrome in Los Angeles. Producer Adolph Ramish caught the act and, impressed by what he saw, made a sort of demo film with Stan called Nuts in May. The film previewed at the Hippodrome, where it was seen by both Carl Laemmle (the head of Universal Pictures) and Chaplin, who had been a star for three years by that point. Both expressed an interest in signing Stan, but only Laemmle acted on it. In 1917, Stan launched the “Hickory Hiram” series of silent comedies around the eponymous rural character. The films tanked,  proving the adage most succinctly expressed in Abel Green’s most famous variety headline: “Hix Nix Stix Pix”. Will Rogers also learned this the hard way. Jazz age movie audiences did not go in for bumpkin characters.  (tastes changed dramatically during the depression, however when Rogers, Chic Sale, and “Ma and Pa Kettle” would click big time with hick shtick. By that time, though, Laurel had long since moved on, to the character we all know him as).

It took years for Stan to catch fire in pictures. All throughout this period, he continued to play in vaudeville with Mae well into 1920s. Unlike Chaplin, who was always well focused on the next move, Laurel seemed directionless, ambitionless, helpless. He never got to the next step without being prodded by others. From 1918-25, he was in and out of silent pictures, making films at various times for Hal RoachBroncho Billy Anderson and Vitagraph. For most of 1920 and 21 the bulk of his work was in vaudeville with Mae.


But Mae was holding him back. He insisted (no doubt with pressure from her) that she be in his every picture, and audiences didn’t like her. This situation came to a head in 1925, when Joe Rock of the team of Rock and Montgomery was ready to back Laurel for a series of silent shorts, only without Mae.  When she balked, Rock held firm, finally offering her a most unusual and humiliating deal. He would give her several thousand dollars, along with some jewels she had pawned, if she would go back to Australia. When Stan showed no inclination to demur, she accepted the offer, which was ironclad. The ship’s purser had strict instructions: Mae would not receive her payment until the ship was a day out at sea. Stan was finally free.

In 1926, he accepted an offer from Roach (producer of Harold Lloyd, “Our Gang”, Charley Chase, and many others) to direct and write shorts. He seemed quite content to be behind the camera, when one day an accident got him acting again. One of the Roach players named Oliver Hardy had scalded himself with gravy and Stan had to substitute for him.

It was director Leo McCarey who teamed Laurel and Hardy in the 1927 vehicle Putting Pants on Philip. It took the team several films before they found their formula, largely assisted by McCarey. McCarey thought of the matching bowler hats, for example.

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In 1929 they made their first talkies. Audiences were delighted to discover that their voices were absolutely perfect for their characters. Their first feature was the 1931 Pardon Us. In 1932, they embarked on a triumphant tour of England, where they were literally mobbed, getting their first sense of their huge success. In 1933, their short The Music Box was an Oscar for Best Live Action Comedy Short Subject. From the late 20s through the mid 30s they were one of Hollywood’s most popular comedy teams, cranking out some 70 shorts and ten features – some of which (in terms of the laughter generated) are among the most perfect comedies ever made.

But the clock was ticking. After seven years of this incredible success, a monster was waiting in the wings. Laurel and Hardy were soon to be menaced by a new kind of competition: the smart, sophisticated talkie. It was now the era of the screwball comedy, and CapraLubitchHawks, etc. were in. Slapstick was out. Without sensing this sea change, Stan started making the wrong career decisions. In 1936, he toyed with the idea of leaving Roach.

He formed “Stan Laurel Productions” but that entity was never much more than a name. Oliver Hardy was staying with Roach, and there was no way Laurel could work as a single with the character he had created. The team broke with Roach together in 1940. No other studio would sign them. The team was in a real bind for some while until columnist Louela Parsons persuaded Daryl Zanuck at 20th Century Fox to do so. The situation for Laurel and Hardy at Fox was worse than any they had ever endured before. Disrespected, shunted aside, they were given only low-quality projects that were produced according to assembly line production values. Unable to watch themselves on the screen any longer, the team voluntarily broke their own contract in 1945, preferring not to do any films at all, then to do the films they were doing.


But there was life in the old boys yet. A 1947 tour of England played to sold out crowds. In the late 40s their earlier films started to be shown on television and they began to receive a huge new flood of fans – more than they had ever enjoyed in the past. Their last film Robinson Crusoe-land a.k.a. Utopia a.k.a Atoll K was bizarre and atrocious, ending their cinema career on a sour note. But they squeezed in another successful tour before strokes felled both Laurel (1955) and Hardy (1956). Hardy passed away in 1957.

Laurel managed to fight his way back and was quite vital for almost another decade.

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His last utterance was a joke. As his nurse was assisting him in his sickbed, he said “I’d rather be skiing than doing this. The nurse said, “Do you ski, Mr. Laurel?” and he said, “No, I but I’d rather be doing that than this.” He passed away in 1965.

As it happens, I’ve blogged about nearly every film in which Laurel appears. For his solo starring vehicles from the silent days go here. For his films with Oliver Hardy go here.

Here’s Laurel’s earliest surviving picture Just Rambling Along (1918):

To find out more about these variety artists and the history of vaudevilleconsult No Applause, Just Throw Money: The Book That Made Vaudeville Famous, available at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and wherever nutty books are sold.


20 Responses to “Stars of Vaudeville #176: Stan Laurel”

  1. Cheryl A. Rice Says:

    I love the reevaluation of Stan and his career. A lot of it was fresh for me, and the change in perspective is thought-provoking. Thanks!!

  2. As is always the case with comedy, it’s all just a matter of opinion and opinions differ. At least that’s what I maintain.

    I love Chaplin. And Lloyd. And Fields and the Marx Brothers. I admire the genius of Keaton (although I have a lot of trouble warming up to his character and rarely laugh at him – but I marvel at his stunts and direction). I’ve not seen enough of Langdon to make a fair assessment. But I can say without a doubt that I find Laurel to be the most amazing comic talent of them all. Here’s why:

    Like most of the above, Laurel had control over his material for the majority of his career. And boy did he work at it! It’s been commonly reported that he worked tirelessly behind-the-scenes always concocting gags, scenarios, etc. It’s accepted that he even directed many scenes or whole films for which he wasn’t credited.

    Okay, now that may not be markedly different than the accepted geniuses mentioned above, however there is something quite important to consider: Laurel created one of the most endearing screen characters of all time to the point that you forget there is a performer on the screen. You consider Stanley REAL. I can’t say that that’s the case on a consistent basis for the other performers we mentioned with the possible exception of Fields. The Marxes were brilliant court jesters and had their layers but really would you expect to meet the on the street? The silent clowns mentioned above varied from film-to-film as the stories dictated. Sure the variations were slight but there’s not a through-line with any of them except Fields (even Chaplin altered the Tramp a bit when the ’30s arrived and ultimately abandoned him).

    But Laurel… we watched that Stanley character evolve and he became very real, very flesh-and-blood, totally believable (even when he did unbelievable things like his “white magic” tricks). He stayed “Stanley” to the end despite the 1940’s films best efforts to give him uncharacteristic things to say and do. At least in his pantomime moments in those films the character survived.

    But here’s the real kicker for me: there was absolutely nothing pretentious about the Stanley character. You never sit there and think, “oh, I see what he’s doing – he’s purposely performing this character a certain way to gain our sympathies.” The character merely exists as a real person. And pathos does play a part from time to time but you’re not aware of the technique; you just “experience” Stanley. I can’t really say that about the others. I am cognizant of Chaplin pulling at my heartstrings whereas with Laurel it is always just a wonderful true-to-life reaction.

    I encourage everyone to get a hold of “Below Zero” with it’s original soundtrack (sans the music that was added later) and give it a view. Maybe even show it before “Grapes of Wrath.” Then you’ll see sublime genius at work, in a weighty work that in my opinion equals the best of the “greats.” Heck, run it before “The Gold Rush” to really drive the point home. And that’s merely one example from the Laurel & Hardy canon.

    Happy birthday Stan, by the way (120 years old today – 6-16-1890).

    • Thanks for these excellent thoughts, Paul and great to meet you…and I am VERY exited about this SACRED SILLY project. very much my cup of tea. folks, check out his blog!

  3. Thank YOU for your kind words, travsd. Likewise I am interested in reading more of your vaudeville entries – it is a topic of which I need to learn more (considering how much I like so many film comedians who came out of vaudeville, like Wheeler & Woolsey and Olsen & Johnson). 🙂

  4. I just read an interview with Ricky Gervais from the Calgary Herald – he expressed my thoughts in a much more concise and eloquent way:

    “Everything began and ended with Laurel and Hardy,” he said. “It hasn’t really been improved upon. Because they nailed the most important thing in comedy, which was empathy. You can’t laugh at someone you don’t like. The funniest person you know is not a comedian, it’s a friend that you like. Laurel and Hardy had that because they are precarious. I wanted to hug them. . . . In everything I’ve done, I think I’ve stolen something from Laurel and Hardy.”

  5. Eliot Clinton Says:

    Can you provide any information about the career of Charley Chase, originally known as Charles Parrott, in Vaudeville. Charley used his song and dance abilities with great success during his film career, but I would like to know more about his career as both Charles Parrott and Charley Chase on the boards.

    • Charley Chase was my late ex-father-in-law’s favorite screen comedian back in the silent days! I’ll definitely be writing about him here, but not until October 20, which is his birthday (I do these posts on the artist’s birthdays, unless the actual date is unknown, in which case I do them whenever). Plenty of info on the internet, though, if you google him!

      • Eliot Clinton Says:

        Sorry I’m so late in getting back to you. Since we last corresponded, I did some newspaper archive searching, but lost Charley’s trail, pre-Hollywood, in about 1912-1914. There was a story in the Baltimore Sun that stated when a show he was in folded in Calgary, Canada, he started waiting tables. He was “rescued” by one Willard Mack, who gave Charley, known as Parrott not Chase, a job in one of his shows. Mr. Mack was, it seems, a rather famous playwright, actor, and vaudevillian of that particular era. I would love to document Charley being in one of Mack’s shows during that time period. Any ideas on where I might look. Thanks.

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  15. Tommie Hicks Says:

    There are some early Stan vaudeville pics where Stan is definitely copying Chaplin. However in some photos with the Hurleys, like photo posted in this article, Stan seems to be imitating Billie Ritchie, yes, there is a difference. Ritchie actually had a good claim of using the “tramp” costume before Chaplin did. This Tramp character actually appears in a British painting from the 1850’s. While Chaplin’s interpretation of the Tramp was truly his own and unsurpassed, perhaps Stan’s knowledge of Chaplin’s borrowing of the costume, a fact not much known in America at the time, may have widened the gap between these two clowns, along with Stan’s reputation as a drunk.

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